Resilience in Leadership: How to Lead During Uncertain Times

In this episode, host Wade Thomas interviews Catherine Llewellyn, a master humanistic psychologist and Founder of Yes You Now. They discuss personal growth, overcoming ego, developing inner resilience, and leadership during uncertain times. Catherine emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, personal responsibility, and agility in navigating uncertainty. She also shares her advice on being a better leader by focusing on what nourishes your soul.

Who is Catherine Llewellyn

Catherine Llewellyn is a Master Humanistic Psychologist on a mission to overturn accepted norms for human potential and promote free-thinking and self-actualization among powerful and influential high achievers. She is also the Founder and a Strategic Self-Mastery Coach at Yes You Now, where she assists leaders today to provide the strong and wise leadership the world needs in these disastrous times. She believes a flourishing and fulfilled leader is more likely to be a better leader.

How to Get Your Ego Out of the Way

Everybody has an ego, and contrary to what most people believe – your ego is a key driver of your success. It helps protect your self-worth and gives you the confidence to take on the world. However, sometimes, your ego can get in the way. And when that happens, Catherine believes it can be a good thing. Congratulate yourself for the times you noticed your ego getting in the way and the times you managed to step aside from it. You develop and stabilize your inner sense of self whenever you’re consciously aware of your ego. Handling your ego is not about bruising it. It’s about looking at yourself in the mirror and realizing how a simple negative trait can hurt your chances of living a peaceful and happy life.

Why You Need to Stop Throwing Money at the Problems in Your Life

If you’re like most people, this is how you handle the big problems in your life: you buy a book and learn what it takes to overcome your problems. Some people hire a coach to train them into a better problem-solving state. Others just hire somebody else to clean up the mess. All these are effective, but according to Catherine, they are not the best ways to solve a problem. These resources are great and might even get the job done. 

But the first thing to do when you encounter a problem is to ask yourself, how did I even get here? How is it that I am in this situation with this particular problem? Sometimes when we do that, the problem almost magically disappears. When you dig deep into a problem, you discover something about yourself that gave rise to the problem. Plus, starting with looking inside is actually a much more efficient and economical thing to do. Throwing money at your problems without diagnosing and assessing the root cause of the problem is a costly mistake. Sure, you’ll find temporary relief. But it won’t last long.

Types of Leaders Who Succeed During Uncertain Times

In her recent study and short eBook called ‘Why Thinking for Ourselves is a Strategic Necessity – and what to do about it’ (based on the findings), she discovered that the type of leaders who excelled during uncertain times were the ones who, number one, were thinking for themselves. And number two, were teaching other people to think for themselves. And this is really interesting because most people would think that the type of leaders who did well during trying times were really good at dealing with fear. In uncertain times, we don’t know what’s going to happen. We just don’t. And because of that, nobody can tell us what we ought to do; we have to find our own path. And that’s where thinking independently comes in. We must think fast, catch things faster, and make decisions even faster. In such times, speed, intelligence, speed of response is key. And you can’t do that if you’re not thinking for yourself or waiting for someone else to tell you what to do.